Showing posts with label tras be like. Show all posts
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Thursday, December 19, 2019

Sly's FOAD Thursday: The Trans Cult, Female Erasure, Homophobia, and Reinforcement of Gender Roles


According to TRA Theory, Jaden Smith has been going around raiding trans women's closets. Just read this entitled editorial for an explanation.

"People like Jaden are starting to wear the trans uniform without actually stating that they are transgender, and they’re claiming it for themselves under the guise of gender-neutral fashion."

So now dresses are a "trans uniform."

Jaden Smith is not transgender. Why would he state that he was? He's a young adult male. He is male regardless of what he is wearing. 

The genderist article gets worse.

"...whoever knew that they (Louis Vuitton) were actually selling womenswear for men?"

They're not. They're selling articles of clothing and accessories generally utilized by women. However, there is no rule stating that men cannot also utilize these items. 

"Jaden seems to be up for this gender-neutral, equal clothing rights thing which allows men to wear women’s clothes without any fear of ridicule."

The more I read of this entitled mess, the more I started to wonder if it was a parody. Alas, I fear this is not the case. The author seems deadly serious about enforcing rigid rules regarding WOMEN'S CLOTHES.

By the way, I'm wondering why WOMEN'S CLOTHES are the "trans uniform." Why are MEN'S CLOTHES not the "trans uniform?" Would not trans men prefer traditionally masculine clothing? Once again, TRAs erase trans men from the equation. Why is the author not in a tizzy about Jaden's girlfriend wearing MEN'S CLOTHES?


Is the girlfriend not stealing the TRANS UNIFORM for trans men by wearing MEN'S CLOTHES? Why does the author not care about trans men's uniforms?

"There’s a reason why men wear men’s clothes and women wear women’s clothes, and why they are generally so different.  OK, I know women have been wearing trousers for decades but they’re usually a femme version of the male equivalent - and I’m not talking about unisex clothes like jeans and t-shirts."

Trousers for women are cut to fit the female body--imagine that! It isn't a "uniform" for women. Any clothing manufacturer who refuses to acknowledge that men's and women's bodies are shaped differently isn't doing their job. Women tend to have wider hips and bigger butts and thighs than men, which is why "unisex scrubs" are so annoying for women who have curvier bodies. Unisex scrubs are scrubs cut for men, but thinner women can wear them. Some women can wear pants cut for men. Most women, however, require a different cut for their trousers than the cut that works for the average man.

I never went shopping for trousers and said to myself upon finding a pair that I liked:

"Well! There's the 'femme version' of an article of MEN'S CLOTHING. We women should not be wearing MEN'S CLOTHING because we are supposed to be wearing dresses. But it's okay, as long as the trousers are 'femme coded' or some such horseshit." 

No!

What I thought was:

"These might fit."

"Stereotypically, men wear trousers and women wear dresses and skirts.  That’s the ‘norm’ and it’s more than that – it’s a uniform."

The 1950s called. They want their dress codes back.

"When you get out of bed in the morning the most important thing you have to do all day is tell the world what your gender is, because from that, everything else flows."

When you're this fucking obsessed with your gender, the most important thing you have to do all day is to examine why the fuck you are this obsessed with your gender.

Upon getting out of bed in the morning, the most important thing I have to do all day is to go to the bathroom so I don't piss myself. The next most important thing I have to do all day is to take my medications and eat breakfast. The next most important thing I have to do all day is to make sure I have clothes on because it's generally frowned upon in the United States to walk around the street naked. The next most important thing after that is to attend to whatever tasks I have at hand for the day so I can contribute to my household in various fashions.

Not once--never once--do I consider the "need" to "tell the world what my gender is." 

From waking up alive, everything else flows. Not from assuring the world that "man, I feel like a woman!"

This sort of rigid genderism is the kind of oppressive crap that radical feminists have been fighting against for decades. People like the author of this article are trying very damn hard to set things back decades.

"Deep down your real job is to reproduce, and showing other humans your gender is the first step on that path."

No, no, no, no, no, no, NO! Did I mention NO? World, galaxy, and Universe of NO!

My "real job" is not to reproduce. Also, how is this bullshit not counter to the TRA assertion that one is the gender they say they are just by saying it? Trans women are biologically men. If their "real job" was so important to them, would they not be driven to look as stereotypically masculine as possible so that women would be attracted to them and want to reproduce with them?

Trans women are hoping to look like women. If we are going with the whole "everything is making babies" screed, a woman-presenting person is hoping to attract a man with whom to reproduce. But trans women do not have female reproductive organs. Therefore, if a trans woman hopes to reproduce and still possesses male reproductive organs, she will have to reproduce either with a trans man who still possesses female reproductive organs or a biological woman.

So, is the author saying that trans people are shirking their REAL JOB duties because they are presenting as the opposite sex and therefore will attract the wrong sex to reproduce with? I really don't think the author thought about anything but their outrage at Jaden Smith wearing a dress and tried to make that outrage sound legit because somehow Jaden Smith in a dress is the equivalent of taking away the "TRANS UNIFORM", which consists of stereotypically feminine clothes. Whatever, let's move on.

"So, to help make it plain for anyone to see which gender you are, you put on a uniform.  Men put on trousers and have men’s haircuts, and women put on dresses and skirts, feminine tops and tights and women’s shoes to show their femininity and declare to the world that they are female."


Both of the people in the picture above are women. They are female. The one on the left has a more traditionally feminine haircut. The one on the right has a short, "masculine" hairstyle. Both are still equally female. The number of XX or XY chromosomes in a person's body does not increase or decrease with the length of their hair.

Lea Delaria, the woman on the right, is not a trans man. She is a butch lesbian. Who, apparently, is shirking her "real job" of reproducing by desiring a sexual and romantic relationship with another woman. However, we don't care about trans men anyway. There are no scathing articles about women like Delaria stealing their "uniforms."

"They have women’s hair-dos and they put use cosmetics to make themselves look nicer and more presentable and to reinforce the female uniform a bit more."

I haven't worn cosmetics in twenty years. I have long, wavy hair, which I guess is a "women's hairdo." So, I guess Peter Steele and I are both women. Our hair is a similar length and texture.

The late Peter Steele, a 6' 7" icon of femininity

"So, when some people come along and want equal clothing rights, that upsets the apple cart a bit."

The late David Bowie, professional apple-cart tipper 

"Male-to-female transgender people rely on props like clothes, shoes, make-up and hairstyles to create the gender identity they want to portray to the world because most of the time their bodies alone are unable to do that.  There are a few lucky ones who don’t have to do a thing to put across a female persona, but most trans women have to work hard at it."

Fine, but how the actual fuck does Jaden Smith in a dress stop you from doing that?


You better take off that dress and eyeliner, Kurt Cobain! You are stealing the TRANS UNIFORM looking as womanly as you do, and not at all like, you know, a man in a dress wearing eyeliner.

"The danger for trans women is that if wearing what are traditionally women’s clothes becomes the norm for men too, then trans women will no longer be able to rely on these props to help them display a female gender identity - and for many, that could be a serious problem."

If your gender identity is so fragile that Jaden Smith in a dress threatens to overturn your apple cart, you need to be discussing that with a psychologist. 

Woman is not a costume that one puts on. One either is or is not a woman. So, if we are to buy into the TRA screed that "trans women are women," why are they not women regardless of what they--or Jaden Smith--is wearing? Why is their gender identity so fragile that it is fractured by a man in a dress?


You better take off that dress now, Prince! How dare you rob fragile genderists of their gender identity?

"But trans people should be aware that well-known faces like Jaden Smith are starting to encroach on our territory.  They’re starting to wear the trans uniform without actually stating that they are transgender, and they’re claiming it for themselves under the guise of gender-neutral fashion. All of which begs the question: where does that leave us?"

It once again begs the question WHY DOES WHAT JADEN SMITH IS WEARING MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO YOUR GENDER IDENTITY?

Further, why should Jaden Smith state that he is transgender? He isn't. He is a young adult male. 

I don't think Jaden has said even once "all the dresses are mine!" Jaden isn't wearing your dresses, he's wearing his dresses.

Why does it have to leave you anywhere but where you are? No-one is stopping you from wearing a dress or putting on makeup. Rather than ranting at Jaden Smith for stealing the "TRANS UNIFORM," perhaps you need to take a moment to reflect on why your gender identity is so precarious that he needs to be prevented from wearing dresses just in case it might make your gender identity feel threatened.

Biological women should also never refer to such issues as menstruation, pregnancy, or menopause because these are things that also upset the apple carts of fragile genderists.

Fuck right off with this shit.

~Sly Has Spoken~

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Monday, November 4, 2019

The Problem with TRA Demands in a Nutshell


Although our experiences are not the same, why should we expect that all women have the same experiences? Is not our tapestry more rich when we include the voices of trans women?

You’re not asking to be included. You are asking to be centred. You are asking for all our language to be changed in order to obscure the ways in which we are not the same. You are asking us to give up our analysis of our own oppression so it fits your ideology, you are asking us to relinquish our rights to self-definition and self-organisation, and you are using a whole panoply of coercive methods to achieve those ends. You are, above all, exhibiting the belief that your needs and your feelings are the be all and end all of this matter, which is to say, you are exhibiting the core psychic mechanism of male dominance, with all its attendant coercions and condescentions, with its complete and unrelenting inability to recognise that we. are. our. own. people.  To be absolutely blunt Rachel (and I’ve told you this more than once already, but shockingly, you do not hear it), if you wanted to convince us you were women, this display of self-centred bullying is possibly the least effective means you could ever have come up with. Our tapestry is doing just fine without you, we have no intention of letting it become all about you, and we’re going to need you to go and make your own.

--Dr. Jane Clare Jones in response to Rachel Anne Williams

Monday, July 22, 2019

Stop Trying to Correctively Coerce Lesbians into Having Sex with Trans Women

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 anarchist-dog
okay. listen. youre all children apparently so im going to explain this to you like youre in first fucking grade.
trans people dont want you to fuck them. they arent forcing you to have sex with them, and they understand if you arent sexually attracted to them. what trans people are asking of you is to acknowledge them for who they are.
what this means is that if you find yourself interested in someone and they turn out to be transgender, you dont be an asshole because theyre transgender. instead of getting angry and using slurs and misgendering them, try saying “oh, sorry, im uncomfortable doing this now” and chances are they will be entirely respectful of your wishes. if they arent, then yell at them all you want, because thats fucked up. however, so long as you are respectful, they will be respectful back.
when trans people say “its bigoted to say a trans person cant be gay/lesbian” or when they say “its bigoted to say someone isnt gay/lesbian because theyre attracted to transgender people” they mean that its bigoted because, when that kind of thing is said, its implying that you dont believe they are that gender.
tl;dr: respect trans people and their gender. please. its not difficult. if you dont want to have sex/date a trans person, you dont have to say that aloud or be rude about it.
thank you and have a wonderful day.
 auntiewanda
You’re not forcing us to have sex with anyone but you are trying to change the definition of homosexuality and will call people who don’t play along bigots. Which is pretty fucking rude.
I have a question. Are biological sex and gender the same thing? Or different things?
 dreddigon
it aint rude to call a bigot a bigot lmfao

the general concept of being attracted to men or women does not and has never had anything to do with the physical form of their genitals, considering most normal people don’t actually see a person’s genitals before becoming attracted to that person and cis gay people are perfectly capable of enjoying genital shaped sex toys that don’t match their own while still not having a desire to be intimate with an actual person who doesn’t line up with their sexuality in terms of gender

stop trying to reduce people to a walking set of genitals you freak
 auntiewanda

the general concept of being attracted to men or women does not and has never had anything to do with the physical form of their genitals 
Gee, whatever have homosexuals been stigmatized and reviled for all these centuries?
considering most normal people don’t actually see a person’s genitals before becoming attracted to that person 
Most normal people can also tell a female human from a male human at a glance. And most normal people understand that female and male reproductive organs are pretty different.
 drpepper-is-a-woman
Genitals have ABSOLUTELY ALWAYS played a part in sexuality! What are you smoking?!
Heterosexuality = attraction to the opposite sex
Bisexuality = attraction to both sexes
Homosexuality = attraction to the same sex
Having a sexuality doesn’t reduce people to their genitals, what an awful and condescending thing to say. The point in bringing them up is that straight people and gay people are both only capable of being sexually attracted to one sex. It doesn’t mean they see everyone of that sex as walking genitals, it means that those are the only people who they’re able to be attracted to.
Straight women are only able to be attracted to males, this doesn’t mean they see them as walking penises lmfao, really telling how this sort of sentiment is always targeted at gay people.
You know who else implies that gay people are sexual deviants? HOMOPHOBES.
Hiding behind “trans activism” doesn’t make you any less of a bigot.
Y'all really love to use the “no one is saying you have to fuck trans people” but then go on to guilt and shame gay people for not being attracted to the opposite sex, regardless of identity. Sexuality isn’t based off social constructs like femininity or masculinity like y'all pretend they are. They are innate aspects of the human condition.
Stop being HOMOPHOBES.
 auntiewanda
Yeah pretty convenient how it’s only gay people who are accused of being “genital fetishists” or “reducing people to their genitals”. 
 slysfreespeechspace
It’s madness, and it’s only getting worse.
I’m reminded of another genderist post about how said genderist went to sleep and dreamed they had short hair and they woke from this terrible dream to feel their beautiful long hair and know they were a woman. Because, after all, hair length makes you a man or a woman.
I don’t know about the rest of you “genital fetishists,” but I am fully aware that this is a woman:
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(Mia Farrow in Rosemary’s Baby)
And this is a man:
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(Malcolm Young, 1953 - 2017 Picture circa 2000)
Myself, I’d be attracted to the one with long hair. It’s not that I find the one with short hair unattractive. It’s not that I find her genitals gross. It’s just that I, as a heterosexual woman, am attracted to the sort of human being who has a penis, aka, a man. But, oddly enough, I’m not looking at his dick, nor even giving it much thought. I’m looking at the shape of his face. The person with the long hair is evidently a man. He doesn’t have to drop trou for that to be obvious.
It would be really gross for a woman to try and guilt-trip me into having sex with her by suggesting that I hate women if I’m not sexually attracted to people with vaginas.
It is really gross and stupid to try and guilt-trip women who are attracted to other women, aka lesbians, into having sex with people who have penises, regardless of whether those people identify as women. Just because man, you feel like a woman, it doesn’t mean that women who are exclusively attracted to women should be coerced into having sex with you.
Also, these people are setting things back to the 1950s with their insistence on rigid gender roles. “Boys have short hair, girls have long hair. Boys wear pants, girls wear dresses. Boys play with trucks, girls play with dolls.” Stop it already!
Source: anarchist-dog gender critical feminism trans culttra = homophobia TRAs be like

Wednesday, July 10, 2019

Reading Comprehension Not the Strong Suit of TRAs

peaktransmoments
 peaktransmoments

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Man reaches peak trans after reading the gender critical subreddit, being berated for calling a trans woman ‘sir’, and going on a date with a TIM who only revealed they were trans right before they were going to have sex.
 discourser715
Man is a sexist and trans woman probably fear being murder
 peaktransmoments
And if the trans woman feared being murdered, then why did they wait until they were in private just before having sex? That trans woman had multiple opportunities to say they were trans in public spaces with others around where they wouldn’t be murdered and if they were attacked, there’d be witnesses to see and help. He even could’ve revealed it over Twitter/messaging and avoid the possibility of being attacked all together if this guy didn’t like that/rejected him. But, no, he waited until they were alone and just about to fuck before revealing that he was actually a trans woman -because that’s when he thought he’d be LEAST likely to be murdered?
I know you’re a moron, but seriously?
Also, the trans murder rate is one of the lowest of all groups in the country and the ones who are murdered are overwhelmingly black and/or prostitutes.
 discourser715
Do you talk about your private parts to a new date?
Also theres film that prove your claim is bs and no one will help
Also nice for radfems to admit trans deaths don't matter because they're "black and or sex workers"
 peaktransmoments
On my first date with my bf, he straight up asked if I was trans. I don't usually talk about it, but I wouldn't care.
Also, the topic wasn't what genitals they had (because surgery exists, you dipshit) but rather their trans status AND the fact that you claim that they feared getting murdered but only revealed that they were trans at probably the moment they were most likely to be murdered.
Of course trans deaths are important, you just have no reading comprehension (as we all know). But trans people have a lower murder rate than most other groups and the trans people who are murdered are typically black and/or prostitutes -two of the highest risk groups for murder- so abusing their high murder statistics to be like ’trans people fear being killed’ when your statistics say that being trans means that you're less likely to be murdered is frankly disgusting.
But it's amazing that I'm seeing you yet again making bold claims with nothing to back you up. We all know you're just an idiot who likes to argue with ’TERFs’ because you hate us.
 discourser715
I'm going to guess you're a woman btw
Why are you with him then? Him asking that is clearly to make the "trans woman are "manish" and "manish women are ugly" like the ideal that if a woman isn't purely feminine she loses her womanhood
That's pretty common shit that happens to many butch lesbians I know its gross and design to shame women to conformed to gender roles
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Well I got these very nice comments by terfs when they heard about a trans woman being raped
Fyi statistics are generally bullshit you can make whatever up
I know this because MRA assholes love to use them to invalidate feminism
 peaktransmoments
Your misogyny is showing, as usual.
Why I'm with him is none of your concern. How you jumped from ’my bf asked me if I was trans’ to ’trans women are manish’ is an interesting thought, though. Is that not invalidating to all the trans women out these who are obviously hyperfeminine and passing to the point that you can't tell them apart from ’his women’? Your comment is really transphobic and kinda TERFy. @confirmed-terfs
Can you prove that these were from ’TERFs’? Or is it that you just want to call these women ’TERFs’ because it validates your point and invalidates them? (Like all times women are called ’TERFs’.) These comments are disgusting and, with the way they're worded, I'm doubtful they're from radfems.
But if you're going to use that against ’TERFs’ then I can just bring up maybe a hundred examples of TRAs wanting to kill, rape, or abuse ’TERFs’. Not that you'll care... Or you’ll just think it’s justified because TRAs have normalised the violence against women so long as they're ’ideologically impure’.
And apparently statistics are meaningless, unless they work in your favour because then they're super important, right? Seems to be the entire basis of your movement.
Anyway, this isn't a discourse blog. These are for stories to be shared. You're welcome to fuck off back to whichever relm of hell you can from. I really don't give a shit what the fuck you do. 😁
 slysfreespeechspace
“ Also nice for radfems to admit trans deaths don’t matter because they’re “black and or sex workers”
@discourser715​ It would appear that reading comprehension is not your strong suit. @peaktransmoments​ was explaining that, statistically speaking, the majority of trans women who are murdered are black (hence, victims of racism) and/or sex workers. Sex workers are exposed to an increased amount of violence. Not once was it stated that trans deaths didn’t matter, or that the deaths of black people or sex workers didn’t matter. People like you love to find a reason to be offended, even if it means deliberately misinterpreting a merely factual statement to be totally biased against you.
Also, if the trans woman mentioned in the peak trans story was “afraid of being murdered,” why did she invite the “sexist” potentially murder-y dude back to her apartment to have sex?